Casinomeister has rogued this casino but it doesn't appear on the rogue list.
I have a friend who claims to have lost over 20k there.

This issue has been discussed at the GIA and here. The matter is in process at 'Hastings'

I recommend you do not deposit or play until the rogue matter on casinomesiter is settled and the stolen $20,000 is affected.

Max D issued a warning that, as of today, was not accessible via the in house Casinomeister search engine via <all> or "rogue" but google strings still access the thread.

A member of this forum claims that he has over twenty thousand dollars entrapped at casino 1Club.
He also claims that the GIA is complicit in this fraud and he asks to be sued for defamation of character to prove his point.

I attest that I have seen documents that attest to the fact that oneclub casino (a member of the saturrnbingogroup) offer financial documents to their customers, and I attest that to the best of my knowledge the documents provided to 'scuter' were straight up shit to be flung at a kangaroo and that a certain purveyor of their product was at last look still pimping the product.

MY conclusion is that saturn gaming has an issue with the player known as scuter and my suggestion, based on facts provided by the player and the lack of facts provided by the operator and their salesfrux, is that al promotio of the brand in question cease immediately


HOW FUCKING HARD IS THAT?

And why did he call THE_CPA rogue? for about the same reason I am going to if an answer (and I don't mean releasing the 20k) doesn't come by Monday.

Who isn't following this and why?

I'm shit face drunk, with best reason, and going to take a few more days off this silligoround. I hope the simple issues are figured by the time I get back.


rogue is rogue

That's what I like rouncheer, participants understand that.

Don't fold into that shit Dave.... don't do it

Get your ego out of it Caruso. Hammer these fux.

I went and copied the warning issued by CM/Max re: One Club, on March 12/10.

They are not in the rogue pit, as far as I know. I do believe this is a valid case, but it's going to be hard to judge if Scuter refuses to provide us with the details of Hasting's findings.

Lojo, IMO...you are treading on thin ice. Nick has posted a response at GIA, re: his involvement, and what it boils down to, is that he was not willing to take on the case period, after reviewing everything, and given Scuter's attitude towards him. You will be hard pressed to find any player advocate willing to remove a casino, or judge against them, without hearing their side, or having some sort of response from them. He is not obligated to take on every complaint presented to him. Perhaps with a bit more tact from Scuter, Nick would have tried to help. And then if the casino refused to respond, or it was proven they had acted in an underhanded manner....I would expect him to remove them from his site. But no webmaster is going to base a judgement solely on one player's side of the issue.

Personally, I wouldn't promote a shithole like this if they were the last casino on earth. But that's me...I wouldn't promote the majority of casinos on the net.

Bottom line, I think we are free to discuss the case, and the casino in question. Dragging another website/webmaster into it, is not. That's my take on what Dave has had to say this morning. Starting a new thread to discuss One Club and Scuter's issue specifically is cool....using it as a tool to take some more shots at CPA/GIA, is not.

Sorry Pina, been there done that and Caruso was at my side. I DO take the advocate to task. If universal has quit promoting Virtual (he is a founder of the gia for godzache) then I leave that piece alone.

My personal bitches with rick or rick or nick or frick mean nothing here.
They are more than welcome to kiss my emmer effing demon ass, as I told them on sux. What we are talking about here is the proliferation of foul shit.

Is pou1club rogue? I would not have thought it. I actually WU them $ and got $ back a cpl years ago so I am jaundiced (lol)

Sounds like they are monkeys to me.
Ya think jonny thew a ton of money at some marginally rogue casino on purpose? Why not the sunny group fer fux ache?

Casino problem here.

$$$$$$$$$$$

Seems scuter wants to find the rogue in anyone and he didn't have to look far.

Are you a member in good standing at the GIA? When I was it was impossible to convince the founders not to promote Virtual. And if dickhead wants more to fight about it was all a bunch of bs from there.... anyway... you a member?

I'ma mazed that Caruso is because tha means th founders got over their rogue ways... wait a minute..

1Club do not get to keep 21k+ of any players money, just because the player is disputing a previous 2k cashout, scott free.

The scott free entails the fact I won't forget. I have no pull there.

by the way; Caruso is fully aware taking affiliate money technically corrupts us all. We know that Scuter.

The system is shit. We're just trying to make the best of a pile of shit quite frankly. It's messy grimy shit and I'm sorry you found that out. Get your money asap and go my friend. Do that.

cobber;

You bet your ass it's fair to talk about the integrity of the GIA. It's not fair of them to hammer Dave but you bet your ass I can ask simple questions. I know the answer because scuter was kind enough to post the PM here, all 15/450 words of it.

And yes, hell yes I'll call a casino rogue if they are and I'll call a salesman a shill, a shit, a rogue, a hump, a rube, a piece of work if I damn well please wherever I am on the planet if that is what they are.

This isn't about someone defending coke against pepsi. THe casino fexed up or not, and the rube pushed it or not.
See why Dave has no problems like this? e doesn't promote marginal properties for simple pro0fit without knowing the owner nd believing... rogue is rogue.. the simple matter is that pou needs to get their shit together. Of course they won't end up stealing his 20+k but the kind suggestion thaqt scuter made to make the fuckers work or get them off the pages wzs sound advice.

Rogue until clear

According to a poster at GIA, Scuter was warned to not play at One Club (by posters at Beating Bonuses). But decided to not heed those warnings, and take a true gamble. Guess it didn't turn out so well. Add in to that the CM warning, which is readily available to anyone who looks. He should have known better. That doesn't excuse them, not in the least. And if his complaint is legit, he deserves to be paid, period. Unfortunately, he has alienated almost everyone in the industry who might have been able to help him. If Hastings doesn't rule in his favour, not sure what his next recourse should be.

Yes, I am a member in good standing at GIA (I think anyway, lol). And yes, I was one of the ones who took Rick/Universal to task over his promotion of Gambling Wages. I was also spanked for doing so. I believe the consensus was that I would have been better off posting it on Sucks, rather than GIA, which they are trying to keep a more professional tone to. I made my point, and left it at that. What's the sense in beating a dead horse? All I would have accomplished is getting myself banned. Again, like I've said before, just because I disagree with someone, or don't approve of who they promote, doesn't mean that they are corrupt to the core.

And FTR, he no longer promotes GW. But I am sure that is a decision he came to on his own, and not because I, or anyone else, beat him over the head about it.

Back on track re: Scuter and One Club. I really hope he gets a satisfactory resolution, but I am not gonna hold my breath on Hastings. And if he had been slightly more diplomatic with a few different people, then maybe they would have been willing to help him.