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Hi there,

I really cant see your problem with EuroPartners showing some interest in your site, by mailing and even calling you - I would love to have that sort of privilegie with my site. The fact that your whining about it makes me sick, really, somethings wrong with you dude! You could at least try the damn affiliate program instead of being such a bitch and whine when they try offering you something.


I've been using Europartners for more than 1 year, and they are one of the biggest and best casino affiliate programs you can use. They offer you great percentage deals up to 65%, great CPA deals and the fact that they always payout, without any problems.

Now you say that their casinos wont payout to your players - I've never experienced that, and all online casinos have the full right to ask for some ID, and honestly, how difficult is it scan a photo of your drivers licens and mail it to them?

The fact that you have decided to post the affiliate managers name is just another idiotic act from you. Why do we need to see that, personally I would hate to have my full name posted in a online forum, but again, thats your decision...

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Are you a shill for EuroPartners?

Why would I want to even consider promoting them? As for bitching and whining, hmmmmmm it wasn't me spamming them or making unsolicited calls to my office phone.

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Now you say that they wont payout you - I've never experienced that, and all online casinos have the full right to ask for some ID, and honestly, how difficult is it scan a photo of your drivers licens and mail it to them?
I did not say they won't payout. I said they make you jump through hoops like a performing seal. It is right and proper all casinos ask for identification. By the way as well as being a webmaster I worked for Ladbrokes for 5 years so know how it works

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The fact that you have decided to post the affiliate managers name is just another idiotic act from you. Why do we need to see that, personally I would hate to have my full name posted in a online forum, but again, thats your decision...
The spamming I have been on the end of from Europartners has been going on from when they were called CasinoPartners. In short years! They need to take accountability for their actions.
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Oh cut the crap - noone has been spamming you, I refuse to believe that. If your as dumb as giving your office number to them, thats not their problem. You make it sound like your the only affiliate they want, and they just wont let you go - I bet you that they were trying to make a great deal, as all other casino affiliate programs try to.
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Oh cut the crap - noone has been spamming you, I refuse to believe that. If your as dumb as giving your office number to them, thats not their problem. You make it sound like your the only affiliate they want, and they just wont let you go - I bet you that they were trying to make a great deal, as all other casino affiliate programs try to.

HAHAHA - so what is your position in EuroPartners Grille? You see the thing is, I didn't give out my office number, you obviously found it via a whois lookup or something similar.

Nice of you too show your true colours and only the second post in as well.

Aggressive, arrogant and rude. Players should not have to play at establishments run by people like you. Affiliates should not have to be subjected to working with programs such as yours.
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I dont work there - as I said, I'm just an affiliate of EuroPartners and have several sites myself.

If you dont want people to call that number, maybe you should pay 10$ to be removed from the 'whois'...
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Besides that, I think you should look at your business plan again - last I checked casinos and affiliates are in business to make money - and that you pretend that you actually "cares" about the players is a joke - if you did you would tell them to save their money and not gamble at all..
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Besides that, I think you should look at your business plan again - last I checked casinos and affiliates are in business to make money - and that you pretend that you actually "cares" about the players is a joke - if you did you would tell them to save their money and not gamble at all..
Pardon? This site is a resource for players of which I am one as well. You can run an ethical portal and also make money. Unfortunately not many affiliates do. Btw even if my number is listed, what gives any company the right to cold call me or anyone else. It is bad business practice and also unethical.

Btw what are your sites?
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Having one's phone number on domain whois information is not a reason to be harassed by phone. Good grief, what logic is that?

I intensely dislike affiliate programs who phone repeatedly no matter how many times you've already told them to bug off. It's rude and pushy. Pushy, rude behaviour has a bad effect on affiliates - particularly English and Canadian affiliates. If you're on their sites and you get pushy and rude, not only won't you get better exposure, you're likely to lose all exposure.

p.s. Chill Grille.

Don't you think it's interesting that, because we make money by affiliates, we're accused of being somewhat corrupt. Last I checked, my Doctor was earning money for my care, the grocer was earning money selling food, and so on. Yes, in the affiliate marketing world there will be people who ;ay no attention to the quality of casinos, but I believe there are a lot of us who do care. After all, it doesn't take a lot more time to research and recommend reputable casinos than it does dishonest casinos, and the pay's the same no matter which way you fly.

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Besides that, I think you should look at your business plan again - last I checked casinos and affiliates are in business to make money - and that you pretend that you actually "cares" about the players is a joke - if you did you would tell them to save their money and not gamble at all..
Get a life mate!

You just said affiliates are only in business to make money and don't give a toss about the players - and yet you are an affiliate yourself! Well at least everyone knows where YOU stand now.

I have been gambling at online casinos for 8 years - and made profit EVERY one of those years.
On my sites I tell people exactly how I do it and guide them away from making mistakes, like playing at rogue casinos.
If any players have problems & want help - I always try to assist, whether they signed up via my site or not.
Saying everyone who gambles always losses is like saying everyone who drinks always gets drunk!
Smart players don't always lose, and smart players don't mess with dodgy casinos.

I agree with Webz & Rowmare; pushy people are a real turn-off - I just tell them to get lost!

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Having one's phone number on domain whois information is not a reason to be harassed by phone. Good grief, what logic is that?

I intensely dislike affiliate programs who phone repeatedly no matter how many times you've already told them to bug off. It's rude and pushy. Pushy, rude behaviour has a bad effect on affiliates - particularly English and Canadian affiliates. If you're on their sites and you get pushy and rude, not only won't you get better exposure, you're likely to lose all exposure.

p.s. Chill Grille.

Don't you think it's interesting that, because we make money by affiliates, we're accused of being somewhat corrupt. Last I checked, my Doctor was earning money for my care, the grocer was earning money selling food, and so on. Yes, in the affiliate marketing world there will be people who ;ay no attention to the quality of casinos, but I believe there are a lot of us who do care. After all, it doesn't take a lot more time to research and recommend reputable casinos than it does dishonest casinos, and the pay's the same no matter which way you fly.
Hit the nail on the head there Rowmare.

Let me reiterate Qrille. You can be an affiliate and also be an ethical affiliate. Providing your visitor base with knowledge. Knowledge is power and allows players to make an informed choice as to where to play online.

This industry is awash with enough spam as it is. The likes of Europartners who rely on spam to gain business does this industry an injustice. Spam is annoying, time wasting and also unethical.

If the program behind the casinos has no problem making unsolicited telephone calls and sends countless mails over a number of year, even after they have been told NO several times, then they should expect to be 'outed' on sites like mine. Also it makes you wonder what the players and prospective players at their casinos are on the receiving end of.

BTW what are your sites. I am really interested to know what other properties you promote.
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